I don't understand how a working person could be against unions.
JustKnow
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Posted 7:55 am, 06/27/2022
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Worker unions aren't specifically in the US Constitution, this supreme court has no saying. Just trying to go along with recent precedent.
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Foxnose
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Posted 7:54 am, 06/27/2022
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By force and threats. It is the Democrat way
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Jimbojolly
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Posted 7:52 am, 06/27/2022
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knslyr (view profile) | Posted 10:08 pm, 06/26/2022 | As acu has attempted to claim the constitution protects us from forced decisions. And scotus has also previously said unions are forced decisions
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Unions are voted in by the workers.
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Jimbojolly
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Posted 7:51 am, 06/27/2022
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Albert Pike (view profile) | Posted 10:01 pm, 06/26/2022 | Acumen, It also means that a car that actually costs the manufacturer about $25K to build costs the buyer $45K to purchase because those union workers are making $48K a year to attach rear view mirrors.
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No one is forcing the auto maker to stay in business. How many hundreds of millions are executives paid to do what?
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Acumen
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Posted 11:56 pm, 06/26/2022
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What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Supply and demand. If the company is free to set their prices, the workers should be free to set their wages. What you are wanting is a control form of capitalism where only one side can have their way.
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Albert Pike
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Posted 11:16 pm, 06/26/2022
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Acumen, The workers can, the company shouldn't be forced to pay it if they don't think you're worth it.
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Acumen
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Posted 10:53 pm, 06/26/2022
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The company can set whatever price they want, why can't the workers set their wages? In your world, workers have no rights.
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Albert Pike
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Posted 10:41 pm, 06/26/2022
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Acumen, Of course you don't, your type wants others (the company) to be forced to give you what you think you are worth or entitled to whether you actually are or not.
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Thomas Hobbes
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Posted 10:37 pm, 06/26/2022
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If you have ever been a leader with a significant portion of responsibility for a company you would know that investment into your assets HUMAN and other is incredibly important. However that does not mean making everyone happy. It's about doing what's right while driving the company forward.
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Acumen
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Posted 10:36 pm, 06/26/2022
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Albert Pike (view profile) | Posted 10:30 pm, 06/26/2022 | Acumen, They have the right to work for which ever company they want, unless they own the computer or are senior management or on the board of directors they are a worker, plain and simple.
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I don't see it that way.
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knslyr
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Posted 10:33 pm, 06/26/2022
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OSHA. Look it up. It's a bunch of otherwise useless beauracrats. most of us figured you worked for them
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Albert Pike
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Posted 10:30 pm, 06/26/2022
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Acumen, They have the right to work for which ever company they want, unless they own the computer or are senior management or on the board of directors they are a worker, plain and simple.
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Acumen
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Posted 10:27 pm, 06/26/2022
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But you are saying that the workers don't have any right to have a say in what a company does?
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Albert Pike
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Posted 10:21 pm, 06/26/2022
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Acumen, So, you are completely happy with a company telling you what you are worth?
No, that's my decision, if they aren't paying what I think I'm worth, I'll go to the company that will.
It is completely acceptable that a company can set prices and wages as they wish?
Yes
It is on for a company to determine safety needs and for the worker to be forced to accept whatever the company says?
No, That's the job of OSHA
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Acumen
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Posted 10:17 pm, 06/26/2022
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So, you are completely happy with a company telling you what you are worth? It is completely acceptable that a company can set prices and wages as they wish? It is on for a company to determine safety needs and for the worker to be forced to accept whatever the company says?
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Thomas Hobbes
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Posted 10:17 pm, 06/26/2022
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Acumen I have not clue why you assume other failed in life. But I worked hard and did it right for almost 50 years and went from a poor kid to a comfortable retired person. I hate that you set your sights so low. Americans can be anything they are willing to work to be. It's why those folks keep striving to be here. If you failed in life I'm sorry but don't drag others down to your level.
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knslyr
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Posted 10:08 pm, 06/26/2022
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As acu has attempted to claim the constitution protects us from forced decisions. And scotus has also previously said unions are forced decisions
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Albert Pike
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Posted 10:01 pm, 06/26/2022
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Acumen, It also means that a car that actually costs the manufacturer about $25K to build costs the buyer $45K to purchase because those union workers are making $48K a year to attach rear view mirrors.
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Acumen
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Posted 8:46 pm, 06/26/2022
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Thomas Hobbes (view profile) | Posted 2:37 pm, 06/26/2022 | Some folks have ambitions to do well a rise to a level of senior leadership. I'm so doing they realize that they do better when the company does better.
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Spooking by someone who has no experience with senior leadership. The union is the difference between a person making $38K a year with little or no benefits and one making $48K a year with total benefits
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