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The Red State Murder Problem

unfried

Posted 9:30 am, 02/05/2023

The NBC news shows democrats shooting and killing other democrats every night. Seldom is there a republican shooting.

Acumen

Posted 1:22 am, 02/05/2023

"While they can move away now, we all know how hard it is to leave your friends and family... not just emotionally, but financially."

I have a good understanding of this. I have been thinking about selling my home, buying a boat and moving to the coast. I don't have much reason to stay here except family. My happiest times were when I had a boat on Lake Murry, SC.

168Amax

Posted 1:21 am, 02/05/2023

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content...f/cv21.pdf



From 2020 to 2021, the violent victimization rate
increased from 19.0 to 24.5 victimizations per

1
,000 persons in urban areas while remaining
unchanged in suburban or rural area

LOL

antithesis

Posted 1:17 am, 02/05/2023

I've enjoyed the debate, this has been a fun one!! Thanks for not insulting and calling people names... this one almost feels like the good old days

Good night!

antithesis

Posted 1:15 am, 02/05/2023

Can they? It takes money to move. They don't have any.

That's what i said, Mr. Dangerman

"While they can move away now, we all know how hard it is to leave your friends and family... not just emotionally, but financially."

antithesis

Posted 1:14 am, 02/05/2023

Can we really trust our police? They are trained to lie and, as you know, the cops go after the low hanging fruit. They could be lying and just packing the murders off on other blacks.


I'm sure that does happen, just as much as the other way around (black cops killing white kids). But it's highly unlikely to be statistically relevant. There's no way that a high number of those would be covered up by a group of people.

But we have to look at the facts and statistics, and make decisions based on the information we have. You can't make up facts and assume they're correct... that's what the GOP does, and you see where that gets them!

Acumen

Posted 1:12 am, 02/05/2023

While they can move away now,
Can they? It takes money to move. They don't have any.

antithesis

Posted 1:11 am, 02/05/2023

Who doing the biggest % of killing to their % of the population


Republicans. Which is the whole point of the discussion

antithesis

Posted 1:10 am, 02/05/2023

According to ANTi the rise in homicides was rural republicans shooting each other in red states so I dont know . What do you think?


That's not according to me, it's according to each states' Depts of Justice.

unfried

Posted 1:10 am, 02/05/2023

Who doing the biggest % of killing to their % of the population

Acumen

Posted 1:10 am, 02/05/2023

Actually it's almost entirely black people killing black people. And white people killing white people:

Actually, is it? In one South American country the cops were doing drive=bys and killing street kids. Can we really trust our police? They are trained to lie and, as you know, the cops go after the low hanging fruit. They could be lying and just packing the murders off on other blacks.

antithesis

Posted 1:09 am, 02/05/2023

Is the enter cities just another form of concentration camps and the high death rate just another form of gas ovens?


Kind of, yes.

Historically, a lot of these cities were created when white people forced black people to live there. Jobs didn't follow, colleges didn't follow, so poverty and drugs set in.

Now there's not the same racist stigma, but jobs still don't want to be somewhere with low education and high crime. So the problem never went away.

While they can move away now, we all know how hard it is to leave your friends and family... not just emotionally, but financially. So it becomes an ever growing problem with no real solution.

And when racists continue to argue that the problem is racial instead of recognizing the history and what made it get to that point, then they refuse to find any solution that might actually help. Which, of course, just makes it all worse.

I don't have a solution, either. But I can look at statistics and see that Democratic policies obviously help better than Republican policies. You can't deny decades worth of statistics

168Amax

Posted 1:09 am, 02/05/2023

What's really interesting, too, is that white men kill almost as many white women as they do white men! While black men rarely kill women. Which means that a lot of the black-on-black crime is fight related, while a lot of the white-on-white crime is rape or domestic violence.



The killings of Black women: five findings from our investigation

https://www.theguardian.com � us-news � jun � black-...
Jun 30, 2022In 2020, about 75% of Black female homicide victims were killed with a gun. During the pandemic, homicides of Black women and girls tripled in ...

168Amax

Posted 1:05 am, 02/05/2023

According to ANTi the rise in homicides was rural republicans shooting each other in red states so I dont know . What do you think?

antithesis

Posted 1:04 am, 02/05/2023

So according to your reasoning a poor Republican county like ours should have a high homicide rate. LOL


No, it's the opposite. The higher homicide rate happens when you have a mix of rich and poor with little to no middle class in between.

Wilkes is a poor county, with something like 5 people that would be considered rich

We know that more black people are being killed but who is killing them?

Actually it's almost entirely black people killing black people. And white people killing white people:


What's really interesting, too, is that white men kill almost as many white women as they do white men! While black men rarely kill women. Which means that a lot of the black-on-black crime is fight related, while a lot of the white-on-white crime is rape or domestic violence.

Acumen

Posted 1:02 am, 02/05/2023

Is the enter cities just another form of concentration camps and the high death rate just another form of gas ovens?

168Amax

Posted 1:00 am, 02/05/2023

Homicide Is Pandemic's Biggest Killer of Young Black Men

While Covid-19 drove up death rates for all Americans, the steep rise in murder was a much more dangerous plague for this group.


From Bloomberg

Acumen

Posted 12:59 am, 02/05/2023

We know that more black people are being killed but who is killing them? A good number of the blacks killed are killed by white cops. I wonder how many of the drive-bys that kill blacks are actually carried out by white supremist?

168Amax

Posted 12:58 am, 02/05/2023

So according to your reasoning a poor Republican county like ours should have a high homicide rate. LOL

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