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empowers

Posted 9:22 pm, 10/27/2016

Another reason I could never, ever vote for Hillary. She sees nothing wrong with aborting a fetus at 9 months. In my book that is murder, no matter when you do it. So glad I can go to my grandson's birthday party Saturday...his mom did not abort him. Also, so glad I will see my daughter who I also did not abort. Don't understand how anyone....ANYONE!!!!!! could vote for Hillary.

sparkling water

Posted 9:11 pm, 10/27/2016

The legal difference between a late term abortion and murder us less than a minute to those already born, but to the fetus it is a lifetime.

redfly

Posted 9:04 pm, 10/27/2016

All Lib-Tards want to whine and Cry about the poor Syrian Children that are suffering and dying at the hands of their own Muslim Governments, but they wont bat an eye, speak a word, or shed a tear for a baby torn to pieces bit by bit from the womb of a mother.

lagrangepoint

Posted 9:02 pm, 10/27/2016

Hot Mess (view profile)

Posted 8:59 pm, 10/27/2016

A 9 month old fetus is a baby. Hillary wants to kill them.


You know we've had this discussion at least 10 times in the last month and here we go again in another thread. I know you really can't win on this so spamming it everywhere is all you've got but still.

Hot Mess

Posted 8:59 pm, 10/27/2016

A 9 month old fetus is a baby. Hillary wants to kill them.

grayson

Posted 8:51 pm, 10/27/2016

"With respect, if you cannot support the right of a near term fetus (which would live if taken from the womb and cared for) to live, you are supporting murder."


No I'm not. Not according to U.S. Law. Murder implies that a crime has taken place. So, as far as U.S. Law is concerned, as long as they are acting in accordance with federal and state law, an abortion doctor is no more guilty of murder than a soldier that takes a life.


"If you support murder, you have no moral authority on any other issue."

I don't support murder. I do support objective thinking.
"LOL, The Borg Collective, I like it, you live in you fantasy world of Space Travel, you must be a Klingon or Clingon in your case that hangs by you fingernails on the edge getting flushed down the toilet."

Uhm...alrighty then.

"Jonestown Crowd, are you talking about all those people that drunk the laced Kool-Aid that Hit-Ler-Ry has you admistered to all you Sheeple believing dolts."

Uhm...no. I was making a much more coherent point.

So do tell us that Favorite County you hale from Sheeple ?

Can one person be a Sheeple? Wouldn't that require two or more to be gathered in my midst or something like that? I think that's even in the Bible.

redfly

Posted 8:33 pm, 10/27/2016

grayson (view profile)

Posted 8:02 pm, 10/27/2016

Are you sparkling water? You peeps really are the borg collective aren't you? You're like the Wilkes County Jonestown crowd, but with even less personal individuality.


LOL, The Borg Collective, I like it, you live in you fantasy world of Space Travel, you must be a Klingon or Clingon in your case that hangs by you fingernails on the edge getting flushed down the toilet.

Jonestown Crowd, are you talking about all those people that drunk the laced Kool-Aid that Hit-Ler-Ry has you admistered to all you Sheeple believing dolts.

So do tell us that Favorite County you hale from Sheeple ?

sparkling water

Posted 8:21 pm, 10/27/2016

With respect, if you cannot support the right of a near term fetus (which would live if taken from the womb and cared for) to live, you are supporting murder.

If you support murder, you have no moral authority on any other issue.

grayson

Posted 8:02 pm, 10/27/2016

Are you sparkling water? You peeps really are the borg collective aren't you? You're like the Wilkes County Jonestown crowd, but with even less personal individuality.


"I dont SUPPORT Black Lives Matter, and I also Know Black People that dont support it either. Does that make those Black people Racist."


No. Not supporting the Black Lives Matter Movement doesn't make anyone racist and neither does supporting the movement, unless your support or lack thereof is based on racial bias.


"Do you support Babies lives that are aborted ?"

No. Primarily because they aren't babies yet. I do support having the responsibility to make responsible choices.


"Do you Support that Black Doctor from Philadelphia that was doing abortions at 8 to 9 months by snipping their spines ?"

I don't know enough about "that BLACK doctor from Philadelphia that was doing abortions at 8 to 9 months by snipping their spines" to neither offer nor deny my support.


"Do you Support those Thugs in Huston that killed those Officers 'Black and White' in Houston TX ?"

Nope.

What do any of these questions have to do with the conversation that was taking place?

redfly

Posted 7:36 pm, 10/27/2016

I dont SUPPORT Black Lives Matter, and I also Know Black People that dont support it either. Does that make those Black people Racist.
Do you support Babies lives that are aborted ?
Do you Support that Black Doctor from Philadelphia that was doing abortions at 8 to 9 months by snipping their spines ?
Do you Support those Thugs in Huston that killed those Officers 'Black and White' in Houston TX ?

grayson

Posted 7:29 pm, 10/27/2016

I didn't say that she didn't lose anything. She lost her father. Before you start pretending to express righteous indignation about my opinion, you should go ahead and ask yourself, Do you support the Black Lives Matter Movement? Do you believe that her father was a "victim" of police brutality? That's the place where she's at and if you're going to feign indignation about my not respecting the totality of her (debatable) victimization, then just know, that's the place where you have to start from. For her to be the victim by proxy, her dad has to be the victim. You wouldn't want your buddies here thinking that you believe that black lives matter and that Eric Garner's death was the result of police doing anything other than their jobs...would you?

sparkling water

Posted 7:06 pm, 10/27/2016

You're right.

She lost nothing.

grayson

Posted 6:51 pm, 10/27/2016

How is she the victim in this scenario? Her dad was a victim, and even that is debatable. She publicized his death in an attempt to raise awareness regarding an issue. Like I stated, it's reasonable to want privacy when dealing with such an issue. It's reasonable to seek publicity when dealing with such an issue. It's not reasonable to demand both. Do you think that it would be fair for Trump's accusers to demand that republicans not discuss their allegations in private after they have held press conferences to raise awareness about their allegations? That wouldn't be a reasonable expectation. Likewise, Garner's daughter's expectations in this situation aren't reasonable.

sparkling water

Posted 6:23 pm, 10/27/2016

Blame the victim.

Well played.

grayson

Posted 6:20 pm, 10/27/2016

I'm guessing that you haven't always held her opinion in such regard as you are holding it now. I think that it is fair to say that virtually any politician would use you or I as an example to further their political aspirations if it were beneficial for them to do so, especially if we had sought out publicity to gain awareness. I think that it is naive to think that you can be part of such a public situation and not be part of a public conversation after the fact. Be that as it may, if she didn't want her dad's death to be politicized, then she, along with her friends and family, should have addressed the issue before stepping out in front of the cameras in order to gain publicity/awareness regarding the incident. It's not reasonable to hold a press conference to promote an issue, but then try to play the privacy card about the same issue. You either want the privacy or the publicity. It can't be both.


In my opinion, her complaint about her dad is rendered mute by the fact that she used her dad's death to promote Bernie in a very public endorsement- which seems to be what the emailed message was actually about. She's mad at Hillary for doing the same thing that she was joining Sanders in doing, which is using the circumstances of his death to rally support. Well, actually, in Hillary's case it was the consideration of doing so and not actually doing so, hence the emails.

sparkling water

Posted 5:45 pm, 10/27/2016

NYDailyNews

Erica Garner, the daughter of police chokehold victim Eric Garner, ripped the Hillary Clinton campaign in a series of tweets Thursday after new campaign emails released by WikiLeaks showed how the Democratic nominee's staffers discussed the death of her father.

"I'm troubled by the revelation that you and this campaign actually discussed �using' Eric Garner � Why would you want to �use my dad?" Garner tweeted along with a link to emails released by WikiLeaks. "These people will co opt anything to push their agenda. Police violence is not the same as gun violence.

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