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So I'm going to break this down into parts.

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Posted 4:42 am, 10/29/2016

lagrange, let me argue in Trump's defense for a moment. Keeping illegals out. What part of this idea is wrong? They broke the law and should be deported. That is what our laws say we should do. This isn't some new idea that just came up, these were laws that were created to protect the US citizen, and the country. He wants the the system to work as it was intended. For the Hillary camp that says they take jobs no one wants or that they pay taxes, what do we do with the 94 million without a job right now? Let some person who broke the law as soon as they stepped over the border take that opportunity from them?

"Keeping illegals out. What part of this idea is wrong?" In terms of the vague general idea nothing. But we don't have a vague general idea being presented here we have a proposed policy and that policy is wrong. First off a wall will not stop boarder crossings. As an example consider the great wall of China a massive structure that was also under heavy guard and yet the wall failed to keep people out. Walls are great at stopping massive armies hauling around lots of equipment but they are horrible at stopping people in general."Hillary camp that says they take jobs no one wants or that they pay taxes" Well yes but that is also what economists and researchers on both sides of the issue say and they have differing opinions on how it would all wash out eventually but one thing they generally find agreement on."Let some person who broke the law as soon as they stepped over the border take that opportunity from them?"

lagrange,
let me argue in Trump's defense for a moment.
Keeping illegals out. What part of this idea is wrong? They broke the law and should be deported. That is what our laws say we should do. This isn't some new idea that just came up, these were laws that were created to protect the US citizen, and the country. He wants the the system to work as it was intended. For the Hillary camp that says they take jobs no one wants or that they pay taxes, what do we do with the 94 million without a job right now? Let some person who broke the law as soon as they stepped over the border take that opportunity from them?

The job pool is pretty poor now, despite the reports. When the ACA went into effect anyone who worked under a part time status lost their ability to get more than 29.5 hours a week. So now those people are under-employed, that is why Trump says to repeal and replace Obamacare. It hurts the poor more than any news outlet will tell you. With 1/3 of the country unemployed in the job market, a business can be more picky with the choices it makes for who to hire. I hired 3 people this week, two will never see more than 15 hours this week. I can't reward great workers with more hours, because the law makes it exponentially more expensive than to just hire another person.

Trump presented a tax plan that cut wasteful government spending to make up for his tax cuts. laying out a detailed plan with point by point he showed where American citizens are being taxed to provide a wasteful government a way to burn a hole in the budget. HILLARY want to take more money from the people, in order to waste it. Things like free college will cost taxpayers, until the graduates get a job, then their payment option is pay the government for the remainder of your life. There is no fixed length loan, it will just be pay. some amount. Hillary said we will import more refugees, spend more than the average poor class makes a year to, bring in, house, and feed. How about we take care of our own diseased, homeless, and dying.

After staying up late to work on this because I have to find each claim check its source read over the supporting information verify that etc this is what the list I have left looks like.

And I still have a few of these to finish checking. It's a bit telling when over half of a list that is supposedly the biggest lies a person has told is nothing but garbage.

yup, and anyone can see that the real RINOs are the ones calling themselves teabaggers err tea partiers.

Beeblebrox42	Posted 12:46 am, 10/29/2016
you go lagrangepoint!! faith2012 just did a cut and paste from a feel good email from the tea party set with no links or any type of documentation which makes them simply hearsay!!

Actually I tracked down the original source so I could reference any additional information and this list comes from the Trump campaign.

you go lagrangepoint!!

faith2012 just did a cut and paste from a feel good email from the tea party set with no links or any type of documentation which makes them simply hearsay!!

PRESIDENT TRUMP !

Just an update it's been a busy day and I am still working on this list I have currently rejected 9 of the items listed as calling them lies would be a lie for reasons I will cover when I finish. This may take awhile as its a long list and I want to make sure I include sources for every legitimate item.

Hillary has screwed up everything she has touched over her entire political life. It's true, regardless of how much the gowilkes tards defend her.

This country has been going down hill since she got involved and like I said before neither are good candidates and we are in so deep there's no way to get out WE ARE SCREWED

http://www.factcheck.org/20...n-edition/

I'm looking at the list now its got a few truths in it but some are outright amusing and it looks like its the list from Hannity these are supposed to be the biggest lies Clinton has told. I will go through them one by one when I get some free time this afternoon.

Sept. 11, 2012: Two Responses

In her first public statement, the secretary of state referred to the video, but made no mention of terrorists or a terrorist attack. An hour later, she sent an email to her daughter, Chelsea, that made no reference to the video, and blamed "an al Qaeda-like group." (The State Department's Operations Center earlier that night sent an email to the White House, Pentagon, FBI and other government agencies that said Ansar al-Sharia has claimed credit for the attack on its Facebook and Twitter accounts � a fact that was not made public until Reuters reported it on Oct. 24, 2012.)

About 10:00 p.m.: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issues a statement confirming that one State official was killed in an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. Her statement, which MSNBC posted at 10:32 p.m., made reference to the anti-Muslim video.

Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.

11:12 p.m.: Clinton sends an email to her daughter, Chelsea, that reads: "Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow." (The email was discovered in 2015 by the House Select Committee on Benghazi. It is written to "Diane Reynolds," which was Chelsea Clinton's alias.)

Clarification, July 1: We updated this article to clarify Clinton's first public statement on the Benghazi attacks. We originally wrote, "In her first public statement, the secretary of state referred to the attack as being in "response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet." As the entry for that date makes clear, she said, "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet."

Sept. 12, 2012: �Nothing to Do with the Film'

Clinton issued a statement, which made no mention of the anti-Muslim video, and she delivered a speech, which did. Neither referred to a terrorist attack.

Privately, Clinton's deputy chief of staff wrote an email that said "we are not saying that the violence in Libya erupted �over inflammatory videos,'" and Clinton told the Egyptian prime minister that the video had nothing to do with the Benghazi attacks.

Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She calls the incident a "violent attack."

Clinton: All the Americans we lost in yesterday's attacks made the ultimate sacrifice. We condemn this vicious and violent attack that took their lives, which they had committed to helping the Libyan people reach for a better future.

Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as "heroes." She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.

Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. America's commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear � there is no justification for this, none.

Sept. 12: Jake Sullivan, Clinton's deputy chief of staff, sends an email prior to Obama's Rose Garden address to Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security advisor for strategic communications at the White House, and others that says, "There was not really much violence in Egypt. And we are not saying that the violence in Libya erupted �over inflammatory videos.'"

Sept. 12, 3:04 p.m.: Clinton calls then Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Qandil and tells him, "We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack � not a protest." An account of that call was contained in an email written by State Department Public Affairs Officer Lawrence Randolph. The email was released by the House Benghazi committee.

and there ya have it lagrange .. your challenge for the remainder of the day is to defend Clinton ... this poster has no desire to look any further. they have no desire to research Don the Con ... only the Clinton cabal

Where would you like to start
LIE #1: CLINTON PUBLICLY BLAMED A YOUTUBE VIDEO FOR THE BENGHAZI TERRORIST ATTACK, WHILE PRIVATELY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT "HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FILM"

LIE #2: CLINTON HAS PUBLICLY TOUTED THE RUSSIAN "RESET" WHILE PRIVATELY ADMITTING IT WAS A FAILURE

LIE #3: CLINTON HAS TRIED TO REWRITE THE HISTORY OF HER POLICY TOWARDS SYRIA

LIE #4: CLINTON IS "UNCREDIBLE" WHEN IT COMES TO BASHAR AL-ASSAD

LIE #5: CLINTON FALSELY CLAIMED THAT EMAILS FROM SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL WERE "UNSOLICITED," WHEN IN FACT, CLINTON TREATED HIM AS A SECRET, OFF-THE-BOOKS ADVISER

LIE #6: CLINTON TRIED TO DOWNPLAY AND MISLEAD ABOUT HER VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE WAR IN IRAQ

LIE #7: CLINTON ADMITTED SHE VOTED AGAINST THE IRAQ SURGE PURELY FOR POLITICAL REASONS

LIE #8: CLINTON'S ATTITUDE TOWARDS OUTSOURCING DEPENDS ON WHO IS LISTENING

LIE #9: BEYOND JUST HER CONFLICTING RHETORIC, CLINTON CONTRIBUTED TO THE OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS HERSELF

LIE #10: CLINTON HAS SHARPLY CRITICIZED SUPREME COURT CAMPAIGN FINANCE RULINGS BUT IS ACTIVELY USING THEM TO RAISE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

LIE #11: CLINTON'S SUPER PAC HYPOCRISY

LIE #12: CLINTON'S PAST RHETORIC ON PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING REFORM NEVER RECONCILED WITH HER RECORD IN THE SENATE

LIE #13: CLINTON HAS BEEN CALLED OUT FOR CREATING AN "ABSURD" CLAIM ABOUT HER OPPOSITION TO MIDDLE-CLASS TAXES

LIE #14: CLINTON HAS INTRODUCED A NEW PLAN FOR THE ESTATE TAX WHICH CLOSES "LOOPHOLES," BUT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE ONE HER FAMILY IS EXPLOITING

LIE #15: CLINTON BROKE BILL'S PLEDGE ABOUT NOT USING A "BROAD-BASED" TAX HIKE TO PAY FOR "HILLARYCARE"

LIE #16: CLINTON WAS FOR FRACKING BEFORE SHE WAS AGAINST IT

LIE #17: CLINTON HAS IGNORED HER PAST SUPPORT OF OFFSHORE DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC TO BOLSTER HER ENVIRONMENTAL CREDENTIALS

LIE #18: AS A CANDIDATE, CLINTON SAYS OPPOSES NEW DRILLING OFF AMERICA'S SHORES, BUT AS SECRETARY OF STATE HER ACTIONS SUPPORTED NEW DRILLING

LIE #19: CLINTON TAKES DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON QUESTIONING JUDICIAL NOMINEES

LIE #20: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON THE MATTER OF NUMBER OF DEVICES SHE USED

LIE #21: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON TURNING OVER ALL OF HER WORK RELATED EMAIL

LIE #22: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON TRANSMITTING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF SENDING OR RECEIVING

LIE #23: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON THE MATTER OF WHETHER THERE WAS MARKED CLASSIFIED MATERIAL ON HER SERVER

LIE #24: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON THE MATTER OF HER SECRET SERVER BEING VULNERABLE TO HACKERS

LIE #25: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON THE MATTER OF SHE AND HER AIDES DELETING AND WIPING DEVICES

LIE #26: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON WHETHER OR NOT SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO SET UP HER OWN SERVER

LIE #27: THE FBI EXPOSED CLINTON'S LIES ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER SHE EMAILED PEOPLE WITHOUT A PROPER SECURITY CLEARANCE

LIE #28: LAST YEAR, CLINTON "DUSTED OFF" A CLAIM THAT SHE TRIED TO JOIN THE MARINES IN 1975, BUT WAS REJECTED

LIE #29: NOT EVEN A WEEK INTO HER CAMPAIGN KICKOFF, CLINTON WAS CAUGHT TELLING A FALSEHOOD ABOUT HER FAMILY HISTORY IN IOWA

LIE #30: PANDERING TO VOTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, CLINTON CLAIMED THE FIRST TIME SHE EVER CAMPAIGNED FOR ANYONE WAS IN THAT STATE IN 1991

LIE #31: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON CLAIMED SHE CAME UNDER SNIPER FIRE IN BOSNIA

LIE #32: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON EMBELLISHED HER ROLE DURING NORTHERN IRELAND'S PEACE NEGOTIATIONS

LIE #33: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON TOOK LIBERTIES WHEN DESCRIBING A TRIP TO MACEDONIA SHE MADE AS FIRST LADY

LIE #34: ON THE 2008 CAMPAIGN TRAIL, CLINTON OVERSTATED HER TRAVEL SCHEDULE AS FIRST LADY, IMPLYING SHE TRAVELED TO DANGEROUS AREAS

LIE #35: CLINTON HAS EVEN EMBELLISHED HER STORY OF THE BIN LADEN RAID

LIE #36: AS FIRST LADY, CLINTON CLAIMED SHE WAS NAMED AFTER EDMUND HILLARY, THE FIRST PERSON TO CLIMB MOUNT EVEREST

Faith2012 (view profile)	Posted 9:51 am, 10/28/2016
OK we have no proof that he's telling the truth but what about all of the lies and cover ups hat Hillary has been involved with we know for a fact that shes a liar

We know for a fact Donald Trump is a liar make no mistake. As for all the lies of Hillary not as many as you might think. Sure there have been plenty of sensationalized headlines. Benghazi for example a lot of headlines made up of crap but the follow up's that would tell you the headline was wrong or misleading tends to get the back page.

Faith2012 (view profile)	Posted 9:51 am, 10/28/2016
OK we have no proof that he's telling the truth but what about all of the lies and cover ups hat Hillary has been involved with we know for a fact that shes a liar

to turn your statement against Clinton to support your thoughts about Trump makes no sense.....what you are saying is that if one is lying the other must be telling the truth ...

OK we have no proof that he's telling the truth but what about all of the lies and cover ups hat Hillary has been involved with we know for a fact that shes a liar

he's not honest .. he just spews off the top of his head, loosely stringing disconnected thoughts that appeal to the most base emotions ... and he knows that no matter how much nonsense he spews, y'all are sure that he is telling the truth.

Time_Will_Tell (view profile)	Posted 9:12 am, 10/28/2016
, Don't you think the nasty campaign she has run,

You see Hillary everday calling people rapist and drug dealers saying people who protest her should be beaten and things like that. Nasty campaign what ****g reality do you live in?I won't say she's never lied of course she has. But anyone using this as a reason is a ****g lunatic when Donald Trump is telling far more lies than she is.So now your into pulling things out of your *** I see. You know who has committed Fraud on a massive scale? Donald Trump in fact he's currently in court over some of the fraud he has committed. Yep she lied about her email. But to be fair we also have a classification system that is so **** up public statements can be filed as classified information. Without knowing what is in those emails we can't make a proper determination if she should have known or not. This is basically bull **** multimillion dollar investigations 8 or 9 of them conducted by her political opponents failed to find she did anything wrong or had any fault and that's just the reality get over it you dumb ****.And here we have an example of some made up bull **** because you know the stuff with even a tiny grain of truth isn't enough you have to make **** up.EVERY Fact checker has said Trump Lies every single ****g one of them you ignorant garbage. And before you try and claim that they are just lying to make her look better I've got to say really? Then why in the **** do they call out her lies as well if the goal is to make her look better.