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whoa!! timeout!! Where on here did I say anything about taking the life of a gay person???.. Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say......But if you are confused on my position let me clear it up for you......I do not hate gay people......nor does God......But neither do I condone gay behavior....it is clearly called sin in the Bible and I have no choice but to agree with Gods word......Muse and umpire and bestill and shadow are all passionate about the subject because they are all under the assumption they are gay and that they were born that way.....

I believe being gay is a choice....made harder for some than others I admit....but none the less a choice...

I believe any gay person can ask for Gods help to overcome and they can do it.....but that is between them and God......I believe everyone has to make that decision themselves....And I have stated many times on here I have no issues with those who profess to being gay having the same rights as anyone else with the exception of marriage because that is a covenant relationship ordained by God....in other a religion experience not intended for two people of the same sex......Surfinturf I hope this clears up how I stand on this subject......




and you may look at my way of thinking as crazy but I look at as how the Bible says it is supposed to be....The problem is we now live in a society that has turned their back on God.....so because Christians have been beat down and told to surpress their beliefs by non believing liberals......they no longer have a strong voice.....and America once know as a Christian nation is now becoming know as a nation without God......

im so glad things are changing for the better. I really am. and you negative people cant stop it.

oh, and by the way before I go to bed... you people who don't want abortion because it's killing an innocent? you are the same people who applaud some sicko who bombs an abortion clinic killing the doctor, the nurses, and maybe 2 or three teenagers who are there for guidance.... or their mothers...... or the 16 year old fathers that chose to be with the moms of their babies during such a horrific time. get your priorities straight people. get off your pedestals and take a real look at yourself and the world around you. gays aren't the problem, young people who decide to terminate their pregnancies aren't the problem... YOU are the problem. Teach your children about sex. Love your children who are gay. mind your own business for a change.

you didn't offend me dude. but the batman didn't respond. let me repeat myself. you people who don't want abortions are so afraid of taking a life, but you're willing to take the life of a gay person? Do you even listen to yourselves? a 3 week old fetus you try and protect, but an adult gay person you try to condemn? what's your reasoning? some of you are the worst hypocrites I've ever seen. I honestly don't know how you can look at yourselves in the mirror. you spew bible verses, but on the side you do what you want. no one really knows what you think privately, do they? no one knows what you do privately, do they? until you get caught. why can't you batman, and people like you, just mind your own business? go read your bibles and stop breaking your necks trying to find out what you neighbors are getting away with. weak people. simply weak.

sorry if offended, peace

I don't know what you mean by a rookie dude... I just don't hang out here like the rest of you do. I think i'm on your side. but i'm no rookie. I just think people should worry about themselves and their families before they say anything about anybody else.

don't try to use reason or common sense with them surfnturf.... it wont work... obviously you're a rookie.

so batman. have you ever seen a child who is gay be cast aside by their parents? It's kinda like abortion but the kid usually has spent a life with his or her parents. Why is an embryo more important to you than a person? You must have these issues very close to you. I'm just a guy. I work hard and pay my bills. I don't care about what anyone else does in their own homes. if they're my neighbor I only hope that they're a good neighbor. but you people seem so worried about unborn fetuses, yet you have no regard for actual people. you're so worried about the innocent, but aren't gay people equivalent in the scheme of things? by your last few posts it seems that you may have had a heart attack. I hope you're ok. but dude, really? why is any life more important than any other? why is a an aborted baby's life more important to you than a Mexican baby's?

why is that life more important to you than a gay dude's life? why are you screaming at people? Why are you so closed in the mind? I'm glad I'm young enough to have not been tainted by people like you. I'm super glad I can think for myself. you're kinda crazy if you ask me.

The funny thing Is that christians have a different view of what christianity Is that doesn't match up with what their book says.

Batman you repeat repeat and repeat... that mantra....whew .... still TILLIS is four points behind as of 7 O'Clock this evening....Christians take action.... what happen to those who are not of your Christian Brand do they not get to vote?...oops!

Lee001 (view profile)	Posted 6:10 pm, 10/30/2014
jmt107101 (view profile) Posted 6:00 pm, 10/30/2014 a republicans isnt a christian they want to rob fro eople lie to people u cant be a christian and do all that Then why hasn't anything Changed?

Because when Obama and the Dems had control they had to spend that first 2 years cleaning up all the tish left behind by Republican George W. (war) Bush. Because voters demand an instant fix and an instant fix wasn't possible to clean up after 'w", they got antsy and voted the Teabaggers in during the first mid-terms and ever since then Obama can't get any assistance from the House of MisRepresentatives to pass bills that would help out anyone except the rich.

One of mine is adopted, I forget which one.

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Bestill (view profile) I don't know of anyone, other than weird serial killers that are in favor of killing an innocent child, I don't even think the pastafarians support the murder of innocent children. There was this Black LiberalKat in Philadelphia a few month ago that loved to snip the spinal cords of full term babies to Abort them,,, you might want to check into that. Golly! I hope he went to jail. That is illegal!

well, Isnt that special

THERE ARE PEOPLE WAITING TO ADOPT CHILDREN THAT STAY ON THE LIST FOR YEARS TRYING TO ADOPT.....NICE TRY BUT THAT ARGUMENT WON'T FLY......SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT IT IS OK TO MUDER A BABY IN THE SAKE GOOD ECONOMIC SENSE??....ARE YOU SERIOUS?????

WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING????

BESTILL I GUESS YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN A BABY THAT WAS PREMATURE BORN......AT AN AGE THAT LIBERALS BELIEVE IS OK TO ABORT...WELL I HATE TO TELL YOU BUT THAT IS MURDER NOT BIRTH CONTROL......WHEN A CHILD IS CONCEIVED LIFE BEGINS......THAT IS A FACT.....AND SCIENCE PROVES IT......TRY AS YOU MIGHT YOU CANNOT MAKE KILLING A INNOCENT CHILD OK......

Ok, so when are you and the Abortion loving Liberals going to lead the Flock to Social Services to start the adoption process

I am a Christian. I am neither a republican nor a democrat. I voted in support of the marriage amendment. I am NOT pro-abortion but I am pro-birth control. Defunding Planned Parenthood did NOTHING to decrease abortions. It most likely will increase illegal abortions due to the lack of access to birth control. It will eliminate education opportunities to hopefully provide knowledge to change certain behaviors.

I am assuming all of the Christians who scream and rant and march beating their Bibles have all gone straight to Social Services to put their names on a list to adopt and raise one of these poor babies who will be born to girls who are addicted to drugs and will ultimately be thrown to the curbside. After all, it's the Christian thing to do.

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I don't know of anyone, other than weird serial killers that are in favor of killing an innocent child, I don't even think the pastafarians support the murder of innocent children.

There was this Black LiberalKat in Philadelphia a few month ago that loved to snip the spinal cords of full term babies to Abort them,,, you might want to check into that.

Golly! I hope he went to jail. That is illegal!

I THINK IT IS IRONIC HOW LIBERALS ON HERE WHO ARE EITHER GAY OR EXTREME IN THEIR BELIEFS WANT US TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THE BIBLE SAYS ARE WRONG AND STILL CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN......EVERYONE HAS SINNED....WE ARE ALL SINNERS...I MAKE NO BONES ABOUT THAT......BUT YOU CANNOT JUSTIFY A SIN AS BEING OK ......PEOPLE LIKE UMPIRE WILL ATTACK AND CALL YOU NAMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO STAND ON....I ADMIT AT TIMES I HAVE GOTTEN CARRIED AWAY WITH SOME OF THE POLITICAL CONVERSATIONS BUT I HAVE TRIED HARD THE PAST FEW YEARS TO NOT BE AS OUTSPOKEN .....THAT IS NOT MY NATURE.....BUT UMPIRE IS JUST ROYAL PAIN IN THE BEHIND...HE NEVER ADDS TO ANY DEBATE ONLY ATTACKS......IF YOU CAN SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT IS OK TO MURDER BABIES......TO ALLOW PEOPLE OF THE SAME SEX TO BE MARRIED....OR TO TAKE GOD OUT OF SCHOOLS AND PUBLIC PLACES.....TO TURN OUR BACKS ON CHRISTIANITY AS A NATION.....AND THE LIST GOES ON ....THE SHOW ME......

OBVIOSLY LIBERALS HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF WHAT A CHRISTIAN IS THAN WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS......KILLING INNOCENT BABIES......LEGALIZING POT....AND MAKING GAY MARRIAGE LEGAL ARE NOT NOW NOR WILL THEY EVER BE CHRISTAIAN VALUES......NO MATTER WHAT PARTY SUPPORTS THEM......COLOR IT ANY WAY YOU WANT......UMPIRE......