Gofund me page for border wall
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kenc
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Posted 3:20 pm, 12/26/2018
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A wall (or picket fence) is going to solve all the trump-ers problems with the wall , we'll never hear another word about it !!! Whew ! That was easy !!!!! 
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bandit
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Posted 3:16 pm, 12/26/2018
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17 million, only 983 million to go......to just the FIRST billion
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Hillary is a murderer
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Posted 3:13 pm, 12/26/2018
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Thug:
Since it’s ineffective (according to you) how about we tear down the wall around Obama’s house?
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pokerthug
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Posted 8:49 am, 12/24/2018
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exactly what i have said also. anyone who has traveled the south west knows that a wall is about as effective as 3 strings of barbed wire. with the advancement in radar,drones and other things a wall is a waste of money. but the simpl minded need to see it and need it in simple terms. wall they understand new techlnology not so much.
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smonk
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Posted 8:46 am, 12/24/2018
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First, despite what Trump wants you to believe, studies make it clear that immigrants, both undocumented and those legally here, are "considerably less likely to commit crime than native-born citizens."
One study, conducted by the Cato Institute, found that "as a percentage of their respective populations, there were 56% fewer criminal convictions of illegal immigrants than of native-born Americans in Texas in 2015." On top of that, illegal border crossings are currently at their lowest levels since 2000. And nearly two thirds of those now in the country illegally are here because they overstayed their visas after arriving via airports, while others even came over the northern border from Canada. A massive southern border wall obviously won't address this. These facts are likely why polls consistently find a solid majority of Americans oppose building a wall, including 66% of independent voters, according to a recent CBS News poll. Even Texans oppose the wall. In a Quinnipiac poll, 61% were against it, while only 34% favored it.
Trump's wall is a perfect symbolic panacea for those people fearful of demographic change. Sure, it may not actually work as hoped, but it will likely give them some comfort.
It's also likely Trump shares their concerns, given his reported comments that he doesn't want immigrants from Africa and Haiti, which he deemed "****hole" countries, and prefers people from Norway, a predominately white nation. With comments like those, it's no wonder that some white supremacists support trump!
Border security is a bipartisan issue -- Democrats and Republican both want it. So, if Trump truly wants to keep America safe, he would use technology that is both effective and cost efficient.
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smonk
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Posted 8:42 am, 12/24/2018
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Trump's wall is about an irrational fear of outsiders -- but it's about more than that, too. Trump's wall is designed to address a key concern of his base: the browning of America. Bluntly, Trump's wall, if built, will likely be the largest and most expensive monument ever constructed to try and ensure the demographic supremacy of white America.
True, a massive wall that climbs 32 feet in the air, as Trump has discussed, and spans thousands of miles could provide some degree of border security. But then again, so would stationing US troops -- in locked arms -- across the border, or building a massive "Game of Thrones"-type ice wall. The question is what is the most effective in achieving that goal -- especially since Trump wants us to pay for it after he failed to get Mexico to bear the cost, as he had previously promised. This past week, Republican Rep. Will Hurd from Texas, a former CIA agent, slammed the "fallacy that a wall equals border security." He explained, "I have more border (in my district) than any other member of Congress, 820 miles," and added that we can use available technology to keep us far safer than a wall. Hurd closed with a key point: "Building a wall from sea to shining sea is the most expensive and least effective way to do border security." But Trump refuses to accept that technology suggested by people like Hurd and others will address the problem. Instead, Trump on Sunday took to Twitter to mock that very concept, writing, "Drones and all of the rest are wonderful and lots of fun," he wrote, but the "only way to stop drug, gangs, human trafficking, criminal elements" is by building a "good old fashioned Wall" -- or, perhaps, a "Steel Slat Barrier."
Hmm, whom to believe? A serial liar like Trump, or a former CIA operative who now represents a district along the Texas border
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pokerthug
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Posted 8:38 am, 12/24/2018
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wilkes is full of dummys named mark......lol
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Skeptic
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Posted 7:34 am, 12/24/2018
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Pollock. Most of the things you listed starts with border security.
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Pollock
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Posted 12:49 am, 12/24/2018
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Fins, I agree with you that there needs to be more of some type of border security. Illegal immigration is a problem in this country and obviously I am against it. I mean, I have children and wish to send them to public schools and want all the resources available for our children first ... That may be selfish but I think it's an honest assessment of how most Americans feel.
However, I don't care for some of the practices of our current Border Patrol. I think they take egregious liberties and treat human beings inhumanely. As a person, I just can't ever justify this treatment. It feels wrong to me, plain and simple.
Also, it's an expensive problem to fix. And I truly believe in (and practice in my own home) choosing priorities and budgeting!
I think the concept of budgeting may be lost on someone such as Trump, who is used to throwing money at a problem then filing for bankruptcy if it doesn't pan out.
For me, there are more pressing issues in America that should be prioritized and addressed before illegal immigration.
I'd rather spend that money on education, affordable healthcare, cancer research and disease prevention as well as focusing on the drug addiction problem and poverty in America first. Also, affordable safe housing, obesity, proper care for our veterans, job creation and security, etc etc etc ... my point is I think the way to Make America Great Again is by focusing more on how to improve us instead of focusing on how to exclude others.
But again, that's just my opinion that really isn't worth much.
Also, I agree that Democrats are hypocritical but I would like to point out that you definitely have a blind spot for the hypocrisy of Republicans. I don't identify with either party so I see no difference in the abundance of both of their flaws. And yes, I think parties are using distractions and blind partanship to suppress progress.
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aFicIoNadoS
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Posted 11:20 pm, 12/23/2018
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You do an awesome job at picking and choosing what information you want to accept and discard what doesn’t support your partisan views.
And the funny part, I’ve never said I’m for or against a wall. But because I’m for an honest analysis of the issue, you jump to trying to defend your hypocrisy
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antithesis
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Posted 11:07 pm, 12/23/2018
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Did you bother reading any of the things I've posted?
However, there is also strong indication that the fencing, combined with added enforcement, has re-routed illegal immigrants to other less fortified areas of the border.".
The fence is routinely climbed or otherwise circumvented. The GAO reported in 2017 that both pedestrian and vehicle barriers have been defeated by various methods, including using ramps to drive vehicles "up and over" vehicle fencing in the sector; scaling, jumping over, or breaching pedestrian fencing; burrowing or tunneling underground; and even using small aircraft. How would a wall change any of that?
Further, $5 billion is 7% of the money necessary to build a wall along the entire border. Meaning that it would take $5 billion for 14 years to complete it. Do you honestly believe that the next President is going to continue funding it, or would it, at best, get halfway done and then mean nothing?
Remember that it took 9 years to build a 600 mile fence...
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aFicIoNadoS
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Posted 11:03 pm, 12/23/2018
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You spin it any way that helps your hypocritical self sleep at night. A partial fence was built. It was never built along the whole boarder. And it was only a fence, not a barrier with electronic counter measures. These are things you’ve admitted in your own attempts to defend your hypocrisy.
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antithesis
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Posted 10:56 pm, 12/23/2018
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My take is that Democrats are complete hypocrites because they 100% supported this idea when Schumer was for it when Bush was president.
*sigh*
Democrats were in favor of a fence for $2 billion. Not a wall for $70 billion.
Then they built it.
Then they saw that it didn't work.
We've had this discussion so many times 
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aFicIoNadoS
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Posted 10:15 pm, 12/23/2018
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My take is that Democrats are complete hypocrites because they 100% supported this idea when Schumer was for it when Bush was president.
I also believe boarder security is more than lacking. It only makes sense to control immigration and know who is entering the country. And other examples have proven that a “wall” of some sorts can be effective. But the question is does the need justify the expense. The other question that’s never been truly answered because this has become a party issue instead of anyone looking at it honestly, is what would the real cost be for a real solution.
But most importantly, the whole issue is really being used as a distraction to keep the party hacks divided.
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Pollock
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Posted 9:34 pm, 12/23/2018
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I've read articles with facts supporting and opposing the effectiveness of a wall. It's my personal opinion that this wall is not a cost effective deterrent/prevention for illegal immigration, especially given the outrageous amount of money that would go into this project. Of course, that's just my opinion, which in the end, matters no more or no less than anyone else on GW because we obviously aren't the ones in charge, making decisions.
So I figure, we might as well have some fun and laugh about it?
But you have been unusually silent on this issue ... I'm curious what your take on this is?
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