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now here we see how this......"Rapture" seed was placed......sure looks and smells like....pure propaganda......was it meant to deceive?..... and was it to be used as a means of control?.....Scofield, influenced by Darby's teachings via his mentor, published the Scofield Reference Bible in 1909. The Scofield Reference Bible went on to become one of the best selling religious texts of the early 20th Century, ....Did ya get that folks..... texts of the early 20th Century,

Darby traveled to North America on several occasions during the mid-19th Century, teaching his theory of the Rapture. On one of these trips, Darby met with James Brookes, a prominent preacher and writer in Missouri �" and, most importantly, the mentor of Cyrus Ingerson Scofield....... Now you see the connection......

So who spread this propaganda...... London-born evangelist John Darby and members of his flock, the Irish-born Plymouth Brethren, popularized and molded the idea of Judeo-Christians being removed from the Earth, prior to an unknown period of strife. But McDonald had no influence on Darby's views, since Darby apparently espoused this idea as early as 1827. But McDonald's visions, and their later publication, no doubt further popularized the idea of the Rapture in Europe.

The fever dream of a young girl......Depending on which theologian you speak to, only one or two passages from Judeo-Christian religious texts make reference to an event akin to what is portrayed as the Rapture, leaving the idea with very little Biblical support. Instead, most of the lore surrounding the Rapture originates with two people in the early 19th Century: a teenage girl living in Scotland, and a London-born preacher.

Margaret McDonald, a fifteen-year-old girl living in Scotland, experienced a "vision" of the end of the world in 1820. In McDonald's vision, the chosen few are saved from a "purifying" fire. This is not exactly the disappearance in the middle of the day that popular culture views as the Rapture, but an early prototype. Not everyone leapt to follow her view �" and in fact, several contemporary religious leaders deemed her visions demonic.

The best known treatment of the Rapture is probably Jerry Jenkins and Tim LaHaye's Left Behind book and movie series. The Left Behind tie-in movies feature a wide-eyed Kirk Cameron leading people through a world that looks like a PG-rated issue of Garth Ennis' Crossed. Planes crash into the ground, and cars that are suddenly missing their drivers careen into each other, as a chosen group of people are "raptured" and disappear from the Earth, leaving the rest of the world to fend for themselves.

So one would think that this idea is thousands of years old......Right?.....Nope! Wrong! It turns out the notion of the Rapture is pretty new �" dating back less than 200 years. So who developed this doctrine, and how did it become so popular, almost overnight?

We've all heard stories about the Rapture �" when all the righteous people will be bodily lifted into Heaven, leaving everybody else to endure years of tribulation. It's a popular idea, that appears in loads of books as well as movies. But where did this bizarre idea come from?

1Thessalonions 4:17 should be considered.

Assuming may be part of your problem, I didn't say what I believe on the subject.

Remember when I said:
"Please, in detail and with ample scripture, provide why you believe there will be a 7 year or 3.5 year tribulation and when you believe there will be a rapture whether pre, mid, or post."

Malachi 4: [1] For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
[2] But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
[3] And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
[4] Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
[5] Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
[6] And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

And a hush falls over the crowd......

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Because of this man made rapture theory and coming "tribulation", thousands if not millions have been scared into a false profession. Just the same as using the fruits of the spirit to try and draw someone to salvation. We preach the Gospel and allow God to draw.

hangs, this is not the place for you to go cherry picking the Old Testament. Go troll elsewhere. Unless you can contribute otherwise in this thread, I will not address you henceforth.

If you believe it all do you follow it all?

1047, I believe the whole Word of God. I come not to disprove it but rather to show what it says and how a man made pov has distorted the Bible's true eschatology. You continually side stepping says either you don't know what you believe or you can't support it Biblically.