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If someone was to tell you that you was a SPIRIT before you was flesh. Would you BELIEVE?

Hideously Terrible

Posted 11:02 pm, 07/12/2019

Mikey, when you say things like "The words of Jesus are Spirit [The Holy Spirit]" you show your ignorance and are distorting what Jesus said. You are also attempting to deny a simple truth of the Bible. I'll go slow and provide references that you can check for yourself.


Does John 16: 12-15 make sense when we distort it to read "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, MY WORDS, is come MY WORDS will guide you into all truth: For MY WORDS shall not speak of MY WORDS; but whatsoever MY WORDS shall hear, shall MY WORDS speak: and MY WORDS will shew you things to come. MY WORDS shall glorify me; for MY WORDS shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that MY WORDS shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."? That is simply gibberish. Your interpretation makes no sense. But, let's not stop there.


Consider John 14: 15-17. "If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another MY WORDS that MY WORDS may abide with you for ever; Even MY WORDS; whom the word cannot receive, because it seeth MY WORDS not, neither knoweth MY WORDs: but ye know MY WORDS; for MY WORDS dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." Jesus wasn't referring to things He had said, he was clearly referring to the Holy Spirit as a real "person."


In Luke 11:13 Jesus would not have made sense had He said "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children; how much more shall your heavenly Father give MY WORDS to him that ask him?"

It's not like the Holy Spirit was a "new invention" that was conjured up after Jesus's crucifixion. The Holy Spirit was active prior to Christ's birth rendering your "interpretation" even more ic.

Let's look at Genesis 1: 1-2 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the WORDS OF JESUS were hovering over the surface of the waters."


Does Luke 1:35 make sense when we change it to read "And the angel answered and said unto her [Mary] THE WORDS OF JESUS shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee; therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." No, it doesn't make sense at all. This verse alone shows that The Holy Spirit IS God, the same as the Father and the Son else, Jesus wouldn't be the "Son of God."


Amazingly enough it is the Holy Spirit who filled Jesus after His baptism and allowed Jesus to begin His earthly ministry. Consider the lunacy of Luke 3: 21-22 when we change it to fit your assertion that the Holy Spirit is nothing but the words of Christ. "Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying the heaven was opened and JESUS'S WORDS descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said Thou are my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased." Were Jesus's words shaped like a dove? Did they fall bodily from out of the sky?


Was it Jesus's words which are mentioned in Luke 4? "And Jesus being full of JESUS'S WORDS returned from Jordan, and was led by JESUS'S WORDS into the wilderness," Even you, Mikey, can see that makes no sense.


But, you will answer, in John 6:63 Jesus says "The Spirit gives life, the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life." Permit me to hypothesize that Jesus was saying that eternal life comes through the Hold Spirit's working in our soul (notice the capital S in Spirit in most modern translations of the Bible) but that His (Jesus's) words are living today and faith in them allow the Holy Spirit to work

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I don't claim my hypothesis to be The Epistle of Saint Hideous or even inspired by the Holy Spirit, but given the weight of the evidence, I don't think even you can say that Christ was saying that the "Holy Spirit" is just a memory of Jesus's words.

michaelhjsr

Posted 7:04 pm, 07/12/2019

Hide.. Yes Jesus words are very plain. . Those that follow his teaching Eternal life. Those that don't second death.
John 8:31-51

Hideously Terrible

Posted 6:46 pm, 07/12/2019

Don't you find it intellectually dishonest and a bit deceiving that Jesus called his words "he?" I know you try to deny the fact of the the Holy Spirit being a part of God (you know, God the Father and the God the Son and God the Holy Spirit (Jesus's words Matthew 28:19)) but Jesus's words make it pretty clear.

And, if God tells us something is it not always true? If so then why do you assume that the Epistles (which were inspired by God and therefore true) are no longer relevant.

In your rants you have accused me (and others) of not following Jesus's words. I defy you to show me one time where I have said Jesus was wrong or that what Peter, Paul or John said superseded Jesus. You can't do it. Instead you are (for some unknown or undiagnosed reason) blind to the fact that your works, no matter how amazing, are not enough to save your soul.

Your hatred has blinded you. May God have mercy on your soul.

Follow Jesus's words Mikey. All of them. Oh, and I accept your apology for calling me a liar when I weren't telling a lie. That was big of you. Oh, that's right. You didn't apologize, never mind.

michaelhjsr

Posted 6:24 pm, 07/12/2019

Hide.. Lets get one thing straight. There is no person or words of a person that are Equal to that of Jesus. NOT PAULS NOT THE TRADITIONS OF PAGAN CHRISTIAN RELIGION The Christian Religion is a Fraud. . The Spirit will teach all that goes to The Good News. That's how people learn the truth that the Christian religion don't TEACH TRUTH. Present Day TRUTHS. Ever heard of them. Years ago people depended on people to teach the truth. Thanks to God people can Read the Good News for themselves. Now its a matter of what are you to believe? The words of Jesus or the words of Christianity?? Each individual has that choice in there life to continue in TRADITIONS of Christianity or repent and turn to Jesus for his Direction.
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I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

((( PRESENT DAY TRUTHS))))

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

((( THE WORDS OF JESUS IS SPIRIT. THEY WILL TEACH YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. SO IF YOU CAN READ YOU HAVE THE CHOICE AS TO HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE. IF YOUR HEART ACCEPT JESUS AT HIS WORDS YOU WILL KEEP HIS WORDS. THEY ARE SPIRIT THEY ARE LIFE. NO PERSON CAN MAKE YOU KEEP THEM. YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU PUT THEM IN YOUR HEART . YOUR LOVE YOUR FAITH YOUR COMMITMENT INTO THE WORDS OF JESUD WILL SAVE YOU. WITHOUT HIS WORDS HOW WOULD YOU KNOW OF HIM OR HIS GOOD NEWS. YOU CAN'T SAY YOU DONT KNOW TRUTH. BECAUSE YOU CAN READ THE GOOD NEWS TO MAKE A DECISION IN YOUR HEART. ACCEPT THEM OR NOT. I CAN ONLY DIRECT YOU TO TRUTH. JESUS .. ITS UP TO YOUR HEART TO ACCEPT HIM.. LET THE SPIRIT OF GOD TEACH YOU ABOUT WHAT THE FATHER OFFERS AND THE LIFE JESUS GIVES US TO LIVE FOR THE FATHER.

Hideously Terrible

Posted 4:39 pm, 07/12/2019

Now now Mikey, even in your perverted version of the scripture it says that you ought not tell lies on your neighbors. You keep calling me a liar yet can't point to one place where I have stated one untrue fact. Most of what I do is quote you or quote scripture. I don't think that scripture lies so it must be YOU that is the fibber.


You DID say that your words were equal to Jesus (on 7/11/2019 at 2:38pm,) You posted at least four times before you amended your "mistake" nearly four hours later (7/11/2019 at 6:28pm.) Then, in your non-admission of mistake you blamed me for the misunderstanding. If I hadn't pointed it out your blasphemy you might still be claiming to speak with equal authority to Christ.


Want to try to explain away how your "God Inspired" link was full of lies? I'm very interested in hearing that one too.


Actually, don't worry bout trying to defend that. It can't be done and we both know it. What I do request is that you explain what Jesus was saying in John 16 verses 12 - 15. I have asked about those particular verses a dozen times but you refuse to acknowledge them. Is there a reason?



michaelhjsr

Posted 1:09 pm, 07/12/2019

Hideously Terrible (view profile)

Posted 11:39 am, 07/12/2019

Mikey, you seem to be filled with hate. You seem to hate the Jews, hate Catholics, hate Christians, hate women ("Yes Adam was Disobedient (Sinned) when He LISTENED to WOMAN"๏ฟฝ posted 7-10-2019 at 11:05am), hate anyone other than yourself. Then, when you were called out for claiming your words were equal to Christ's words
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SEE HOW YOU LIE.. NEVER SAID MY WORDS ARE EQUAL TO JESUS. HIS WORDS SAVES THE SOUL. MY WORDS JUST POINT TO HIS WORDS. I CAN SAY DONT STEAL UNTIL IM BLUE IN THE FACE WANT STOP YOU. BUT THE WORDS OF JESUS CAN. IF YOU KEEP THEM IN YOUR HEART. NO HUMAN WORDS ARE EQUAL TO GODS . YOU EITHER ACCEPT JESUS AS HE IS OR YOU WILL NEVER FIND HIM. THAT IS WHY I KNOW NOT TO SERVE PAGAN CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN RELIGION. IT IS THE ANTICHRIST.
JOHN 8:31-51

1047pm

Posted 12:45 pm, 07/12/2019

I think Mhjsr really wanted to serve the Lord, and his background was being taught that if you wanted to serve the Lord you had to keep the ten commandments, first mistake, the Lord Jesus is not calling us to serve him, that is to do works to try to earn the Salvation he came to give Fallen mankind ,so Mike went to a Christian Church. It didn't take long for him to see that the Believers didn't live under the OT law, they were saved by Grace through Faith in Christ Atoning death on the Cross. He just could not accept that as serving the Lord, so he begin to listen to other teachers that believed like him, and even had some really unusual thoughts on the Creation and other things in the Bible. As time went on he took in this strange doctrine and began to think that New Testament Believers were all wrong and that Christianity had to be of Satan. He built his defence of his beliefs around Christian Liberty as being Anti-God. He knows he has things all mixed up, but has too much pride to admit his mistake, and continues to fight off anyone who tries to help him.

Hideously Terrible

Posted 11:39 am, 07/12/2019

Mikey, you seem to be filled with hate. You seem to hate the Jews, hate Catholics, hate Christians, hate women ("Yes Adam was Disobedient (Sinned) when He LISTENED to WOMAN" posted 7-10-2019 at 11:05am), hate anyone other than yourself. Then, when you were called out for claiming your words were equal to Christ's words you belittled me saying that I "should have recognized that a word was missing." I am sorry, the perversions of your mind escape me. Based on the other falsehoods you have posted and tried to pass off as true I just assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that you were finally posting the truth that lives in your demented head.


I am glad that you finally realized that what Paul said are "true." (Posted 7/11/2019 at 6:28pm) So, explain to me why you reject what you know to be "true?"


Please explain to me how your lies and the lies you have tried to pass off have been "inspired by God" (posted 7/11/2019 at 11:23am.) Does God inspire one to spread falsehoods and hate? My favorite (thus far) was the lie inspired link you shared with me that a simple cross check of misquoted verses proved to be riddled with lies. I must admit, you had the good grace not to try to defend that drivel but I hope you don't expect me to believe that the Holy Spirit "inspired" you to use lies to make your point.


John wrote "But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes." (1 John 2:11 (NASB)) Don't hate Mikey, come to the light because "You don't know the power of the dark side." (Darth Vader, Return of the Jedi)


Paul wrote "For He Himself [Christ] is our peace, who made both groups [believing Jews and Gentiles] into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace." (2 Ephesians 2:14-15 (NASB))


Find peace Mikey. It is there if only you will open your heart to the Holy Spirit. Maybe Paul and John and Peter and the rest of the Epistles will help you.

1047pm

Posted 9:14 am, 07/12/2019

The Word of God is interpreted by the Holy Spirit of God. Why don't you ask Jesus to wash your sin away with his Shed Blood, Then God's Holy Spirit can come and live in you and teach you God's Word.


Pretty simple, do it and the Light of the Lord will shine all around you.

Then Jeremiah 31:31-34 will be your covenant with God too.

michaelhjsr

Posted 8:36 am, 07/12/2019

1047 I do not deny Jesus the Christ. You do HOLLARING Paul says this Paul says That.
Pagan CHRISTIAN. ANTICHRIST
John 8:31-51

1047pm

Posted 8:28 am, 07/12/2019

michaelhjsr (view profile)

Posted 8:13 am, 07/12/2019

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

Paul or the Church didn't say this, the Apostle John wrote this moved by the Holy Spirit.

Why are you against Christ Jesus? Is it because you do not have the New Covenant written in your heart,( Jeremiah 31:31-34)

michaelhjsr

Posted 8:13 am, 07/12/2019

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son
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1047 you are such a . EVERY TIME YOU TALK PAUL SAYS OR MY CHURCH TEACHES.. YOU DENY THE JESUS THE CHRIST. YOU ARE THE ANTICHRIST!!!!

Marmy242

Posted 8:12 am, 07/12/2019

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1047pm

Posted 9:33 pm, 07/11/2019

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Mhjsr denies that Jesus is Christ, That makes you a liar.

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

That makes you a liar, because you hate Christians.

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You try to make God a liar because you do not believe that God sent his Son into the world to pay man's sin debt

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

1047pm

Posted 9:24 pm, 07/11/2019

michaelhjsr (view profile)

Posted 7:59 pm, 07/11/2019


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4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:

You need to stop sinning , lying, condemning, judging, being an enemy of Christ Jesus.

michaelhjsr

Posted 7:59 pm, 07/11/2019

1047 I post the Gospels you go to Paul. I post Paul you go to someplace else. I DON'T Lie. My life is more important than being a Christian.. Jesus says those that sin are servants of Sin. Listen to John.
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4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him

1goddess

Posted 7:55 pm, 07/11/2019

guuud gaaaaawly ya'll, this is old news!!!


We have always been, we shall always be....it's a magical kinda thingy

1047pm

Posted 7:53 pm, 07/11/2019

just pointing out what a hypocrite you are, You don't even have the honesty to admit when you are wrong about anything, when it is clear to everyone. You are like a bull in a china shop, just stomping over everything without even knowing what you are doing, running all through the Word of God, twisting it this way and that way. never ever run across such a fool before.

michaelhjsr

Posted 7:03 pm, 07/11/2019

1047. I see you are using the words we.but you should have post
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1 John 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1047pm

Posted 6:39 pm, 07/11/2019

michaelhjsr (view profile)

Posted 5:40 pm, 07/11/2019

Hide. Paul taught FAITH NOT GRACE.

michaelhjsr (view profile)

Posted 6:29 pm, 07/11/2019

Hide. Paul says by grace are you saved THROUGH FAITH. Without Faith can't please God.

michaelhjsr (view profile)

Posted 11:55 am, 07/11/2019

Hide.Them Christian today take a little Paul here a little Paul there and There it is. Saved by Grace?

1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.


Hide, it looks like we are dealing with a murderer here, a really confused one at that.

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